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[doodlemaier]

Word came that Shams was in Damascus. Rumi sent his son, Sultan Velad, to Syria to bring his Friend back to Konya. When Rumi and Shams met for the second time, they fell at each other's feet, so that "no one knew who was the lover and who the beloved." Shams stayed in Rumi's home and was married to a young girl who had been brought up in the family. Again the long mystical conversation (sohbet) began and again the jealousies grew.

~From The Essential Rumi

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[helcat.livejournal.com]

Far be it for me to deny you your Shams.

[http://users.livejournal.com/_kevinski_/]

Hah.. It's an interesting story. You got me to look it up. Turns out the son connived to have poor Shams murdered.

From Wikipedia:

"It was his meeting with the dervish Shams-e Tabrizi on 15 November 1244 that changed his life completely. Shams had traveled throughout the Middle East searching and praying for someone who could "endure my company". A voice came, "What will you give in return?" "My head!" "The one you seek is Jalal ud-Din of Konya." On the night of December 5, 1248, as Rumi and Shams were talking, Shams was called to the back door. He went out, never to be seen again. It is believed that he was murdered with the connivance of Rumi's son, 'Ala' ud-Din; if so, Shams indeed gave his head for the privilege of mystical friendship."

Looks like marrying that that young girl wasn't such a good idea after all.

[deansavatar.livejournal.com]

Maybe it's too late for them to correct their karma, but not for us. . . Or, maybe it's ours to iron the kinks out for them 800 years after the fact.

Cool heads prevail!

[http://users.livejournal.com/_kevinski_/]

AFAIK, My karma is perfectly fine. I always try to give far more than I ask for. I've been accused of having a "low self esteem", but I know what the truth is.

How can I help the karma of two mystics, dead 800 years, one of which who forgot to watch his back?

[deansavatar.livejournal.com]

Well, mine and that of others around me seem to be tightening into the same old unsoluable knot.

[http://users.livejournal.com/_kevinski_/]

I do like Rumi's wisdom concerning the loss of his close friend. People we lose stay in our hearts forever.

Again, from Wikipedia, Rumi's words:

"Why should I seek? I am the same as
He. His essence speaks through me.
I have been looking for myself!"

[deansavatar.livejournal.com]

I know this to be fact from experience, and agree completely.