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Nov. 28th, 2005 11:22 am
doodlemaier: (Alone in the dark)
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Friday night, upon pulling the sleeping child from the warm back seat of the car having just driven for an hour to Pop's she awoke with the first influx of cold, clear mountain air, feet up and cradled in my arms. "Wow!" was the first word I'd heard from her since shortly after we'd left home, "I saw that once at the planetarium with Auntie M!", she says with that enthusiastic roar kids sometimes have. With the plan to build 20 - 25 new homes in the immediate area around Pop's I suspect that the incredible view of the stars, the milky way galaxy and its galactic disk are soon to be a thing of the past.

I realize people have to live somewhere . . . It's why I'm pro-abortion.

For whatever reason, people in general can't move into an area without polluting the natural order, and ruining a given habitat, completely. I think that's what Helen means when she says that there is spiritual 'stuff' having its origin in God that is spread increasingly thinner among an ever-expanding human population. That 'stuff' I believe to be consciousness and more people exercising less of it is an equation for a disasterous future. Although, in my opinion, consciousness is a renewable resource in that respect - the human being is a perfect recepticle for cultivating consciousness. The problem being that, like appreciation, it cannot be forced onto people. The individual has to want it, the individual has to work to cultivate it. And it would appear that the individual wants nothing more than convenience, they want cheap food and cheap fuel (heh, at any cost!) and a constant source of stimulation and entertainment. And by the time they move into their couchy little community, and the bodegas and gas stations and movie theaters are firmly in place and lit up like Vegas they won't ever be aware that there are an infinte universe of stars overhead. It never occurs to them because they'd never dream of ever stepping outside of their comfort bubble where such a thing is possible, and they don't care anyway . . .

Bonding with Lemmings?

Date: 2005-11-28 06:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deansavatar.livejournal.com
I knew my great grandmother. She was born in 1902, her world had gone from horse-n-buggy, to steam, to the I.C.E., to putting people on the moon. I had the opportunity, and so I asked her what in her experience was the biggest change in history. I thougt she was going to sing the praises of technology, electronics, transportation, satellites and television, and all that . . . What she told me was a little startling. She said something to the effect of "every generation has their own little innovations that make doing something they've always done a little bit easier, and you'll recognize these as you get older, and you'll see they're pretty common. What's really changed in my lifetime is people - there are simply more people."

Pet peeve

Date: 2005-11-28 06:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] helcat.livejournal.com
Pro choice, ok, but you'll never hear pro-abortion out of me other than in the most disparaging terms.

Choose Death

Date: 2005-11-28 07:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deansavatar.livejournal.com
A. You, of all people, know that I don't really feel this way - I only think that way - huge difference!

B. If human history is any indication the alternatives are cyclic famine and war.

C. The real alternative is a whole earth point of view where children are the direct result of the adundance of a loving and giving relationship (literally translated to: "If we were any more in Love then we need another person just to contain it all.") The real alternative is for individuals to collectively make better choices and exercise some self-control. But we, in this society have been fed this story of liberty, divorced from any genuine concept of the responsibility that goes along with it as an integral function of honest-to-God freedom, and to bring it up now is laughable (and hints at that whole consciousness thing again, nevermind.)

Sorry If I've offended your Christian sensibilities. The fact of the matter is that we choose death every day in the very ways that we seek to live. What we need is a realignment of our values with those that would ensure a stable and equitable future for every living thing rather than those that keep us chasing expensive and fleeting phantoms of status and comfort. Yes, new values instead of the same tired arguments . . .

Re: Choose Death

Date: 2005-11-28 09:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] helcat.livejournal.com
you've seen me in tears over what cannot be. Please don't think this has anything to do with my faith, although I have come to understand the wisdom in fighting a casual attitude toward abortion.

And fine, I'll throw out all the meat.

Re: Choose Death

Date: 2005-11-28 10:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deansavatar.livejournal.com
Otherwise, how are you feeling?

(a little nauseous, here)

Re: Choose Death

Date: 2005-11-28 10:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] helcat.livejournal.com
Bleah.

Slept most of the day, honestly. What I seem to do when I get sick.

Re: Choose Death

Date: 2005-11-28 10:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deansavatar.livejournal.com
Maybe if everyone fought a casual attitude about wasting food, and other resources there wouldn't exist any reason for anyone to ever want to have an abortion in the first place.

Re: Choose Death

Date: 2005-11-28 11:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] helcat.livejournal.com
I don't know any woman who wants to have an abortion.

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